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From: Makela Veikko (PVTMAKELA_at_hidden_email_address.net)
Date: 05/18/1995



> It seems to me that the discussin of impurities causing wild
> colors in noctilucents relates also to the two photographs
> I now have showing circumhorizontal arcs generated in jet
> exhaust contrails. This ribanding of spectral color was
> imparted to the contrail but not to the surrounding clouds.
> Is this what we are talking about, or am I off base?

    I am afraid you mixed discussions. If I have correctly     understood, there was discussion of green sky effect     related tornados and Timo Nousiainen give a suggestion     that inpurities in droplets could be one explanation     of green color.

    When talking about "NLC" photograph in S+T June 1995     issue taken by Pekka Parviainen: This case is not     noctilucent clouds but a rocket exhaust.

    In the article written you in May 1995 there were     circumhorizontal arc in a jet contrail. The meteorological     conditions in case were suitable to ice crystal formation in     contrail but not in other clouds around. They could be eg.     in the different altitude and different temperature etc.

    Even in the same cloud layer type of ice crystal could     vary a much. Eg. yesterday I saw a bright sun dog in a     small cloud. There were lots of similar cirrus clouds     around the Sun, but no other halo forms were seen. It     seems, that only in some parts of clouds there were suitable     plate crystals to form a halo and when they were in the     correct direction a sundog was seen.

                                               -Veikko-